Is Riak dead?

Dave King djking at gmail.com
Fri Jul 14 16:08:40 EDT 2017


Just FYI: I know one Apache Foundation Project that had to change it's name
when it wanted to leave the foundation.

- Peace
Dave





On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 10:32 AM, Russell Brown <russell.brown at mac.com>
wrote:

>
> On 14 Jul 2017, at 17:26, Alexander Sicular <siculars at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I love your enthusiasm Lloyd. How about starting with a slack channel
> > and take it from there…
>
> What’s wrong with the existing IRC channel?
>
> >
> > Things that would kinda need to happen for Riak to grow beyond where it
> is now:
>
> Grow? Surely we’re just talking survival and maintenance in the first
> instance. Security for those orgs that depend on it. Growth was the
> problem, right?
>
> >
> > - complete rebranding. Basho is dead. The term "Riak" may be encumbered.
>
> What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2 licensed
> open source database, so it can continue to be used to describe that apache
> 2 licensed database, please don’t spread FUD.
>
> > - new everything. name. domain. github repo. bla bla bla.
>
> Again, I don’t agree. Why a new name? Obviously the basho domain is off
> limits, but why does that matter, any great content on there? Or just
> cartoon guys?
>
> Numerous orgs already have full forks of all repos, and all the issues
> copied, and pull request histories etc. This wasn’t a surprise.
>
> >
> > Instead of a framework, how can the Riak codebase actually become an
> > Apache project?
>
> Personally not sure of the benefit of being an apache project.
>
> Russell
>
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jul 13, 2017 at 8:06 PM,  <lloyd at writersglen.com> wrote:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> If there is enough interest, I'd be happy to do the legwork in Boston
> and
> >> put up a very modest contribution toward up-front cost with hope of
> recovery
> >> through registrations.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Boston has conference spaces of all sizes. I would imagine a conference
> on
> >> the future of open-source Riak would be a fairly intimate group. I'm
> also
> >> imagining a fairly bare-bones event to minimize cost of registration.
> >> Registration cost should be just enough to cover the venue and nibbles.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Just to kick off brain-storming:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Say two days--- Friday and Saturday
> >>
> >> 2. Friday: Invite short (20 minute) proposals on key topics
> >>
> >>     a. Clarifying legal issues
> >>
> >>     b. Technical road map
> >>
> >>     c. Organizational framework; e.g. ala Apache Foundation or some such
> >>
> >>     d. Marketing; e.g. expanding the open-source community
> >>
> >> 3. Saturday (or Saturday morning)
> >>
> >>     Discussion sessions with goal of recommendations for moving forward
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> How to get from here to there:
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> 1. Is there enough interest on the mailing list?
> >>
> >> 2. How can we pin down an agenda?
> >>
> >> 3. Can we get corporate sponsorships to minimize registration?
> >>
> >> 4. How can we most widely promote the event?
> >>
> >> 5. What else?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Lloyd
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Russell Brown" <russell.brown at mac.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 4:00pm
> >> To: lloyd at writersglen.com
> >> Cc: "riak-users" <riak-users at lists.basho.com>, "Senthilkumar
> Peelikkampatti"
> >> <sendtopms at gmail.com>, "Russell Brown" <russell.brown at icloud.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Is Riak dead?
> >>
> >> We have talked about it. Let's do it!
> >>
> >> On Jul 13, 2017 7:56 PM, lloyd at writersglen.com wrote:
> >>
> >> Hmmm--- I wonder if anyone has given thought to a conference focused on
> the
> >> future of open-source Riak?
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I'm sure there are many good ideas out there re: roadmap and governance.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> It's just too great not to be worth deep thought and prudent action.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> All the best,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> LRP
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: "Russell Brown" <russell.brown at icloud.com>
> >> Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2017 12:40pm
> >> To: "Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti" <sendtopms at gmail.com>
> >> Cc: "riak-users" <riak-users at lists.basho.com>
> >> Subject: Re: Is Riak dead?
> >>
> >> Hi Senthilkumar,
> >> No Riak is not dead. It’s parent company, Basho is dead. And they kept
> the
> >> keys. There are numerous forks that are being worked on. Hopefully
> something
> >> that is a canonical, community backed fork will emerge. Past mailing
> list
> >> posts show strong support from large commercial and govt. organisations.
> >> Riak is open source and will continue to be critical infrastructure for
> >> numerous organisation in its niche for some time.
> >>
> >> There are also a few support organisations springing up, as well as the
> >> existing partners (Erlang Solutions, Trifork etc.) If you’re asking me,
> this
> >> could be a very good thing for Riak in the medium to long term. It and
> it’s
> >> users and community were served very badly by Basho these last couple of
> >> years. It’s a little trodden under, but no way dead. Give it a little
> time
> >> to bounce back.
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >>
> >> Russell
> >>
> >>
> >> On 11 Jul 2017, at 08:15, Senthilkumar Peelikkampatti <
> sendtopms at gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Is Riak dead? No new activities on Riak GitHub repo.
> >>>
> >>> https://github.com/basho/riak_kv/pulse/monthly
> >>> https://github.com/basho/riak/pulse/monthly
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Senthil
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