Is Riak dead?

Dave King djking at gmail.com
Fri Jul 14 18:36:37 EDT 2017


You asked what difference the tm made.  The tm invokes clause 6.  So yes it
means moving forward means a new name.  That's one of the things to be
considered.

- Peace
Dave


On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:30 PM, Russell Brown <russell.brown at mac.com>
wrote:

>
> On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:28, Dave King <djking at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > No, but I can read.
>
> I read it too. I’m not sure what your point is. A day may come when the
> name has to change?
>
> >
> > - Peace
> > Dave
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:27 PM, Russell Brown <russell.brown at mac.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:26, Dave King <djking at gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > 6. Trademarks. This License does not grant permission to use the trade
> names, trademarks, service marks, or product names of the Licensor, except
> as required for reasonable and customary use in describing the origin of
> the Work and reproducing the content of the NOTICE file.
> > >
> > > So At minimum I read that as there would need to be a new product
> name, and the docs for that product could say formerly known as Riak.
> >
> > You are lawyer?
> >
> > >
> > > - Peace
> > > Dave
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:22 PM, Russell Brown <russell.brown at mac.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > On 14 Jul 2017, at 23:17, Dave King <djking at gmail.com> wrote:
> > >
> > > > Looks like Basho has the trademark on Riak.
> > > > http://www.trademarkia.com/riak-77954950.html
> > >
> > > They sure do. And if you look at the Apache2 license you’ll see that
> it grants use of the name to identify the source.
> > >
> > > Look, I’m not a lawyer, and I’m guessing you’re not a lawyer. What
> difference does the name or trademark make? There are a bunch of active
> users of Riak, some of whom have made it clear they plan to continue using
> it. Dance on Basho’s grave all you want, but Riak isn’t dead yet.
> > >
> > > >
> > > > - Peace
> > > > Dave
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jul 14, 2017 at 4:08 PM, Alexander Sicular <
> siculars at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > > On Jul 14, 2017, at 11:32, Russell Brown <russell.brown at mac.com>
> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > What do you mean “encumbered”? Riak is the name of an Apache2
> licensed open source database, so it can continue to be used to describe
> that apache 2 licensed database, please don’t spread FUD.
> > > >
> > > > You willing to invest time in a project that could be legally
> encumbered at some point in the future because lawyers? You willing to put
> that beyond the clown fiesta that is Basho? I don't think so.
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